meep ([info]meep) wrote,

In praise of the singular "they"

I am a singular-theyist.

That is to say, I like to use the pronoun "they" and its derivatives to refer to a generic individual.

It is extremely easy to get away with this in regular speech, even formal speech. Most people barely notice it.

It can be a bit more difficult to get it professionally published... depending on the profession. In my day job, I can't get away with it, as we have prescriptivists-nonpareil on staff whose job it is to corral the writers. Dangit.

In my side job(s), I self-publish, so it's hunky dory by me. When I write articles gratis for professional newsletters, I tend to be able to get away with it (mainly because the editors are unpaid, too, and may not notice what I'm attempting to pull on them).

I think everyone can agree that the generic "he" is currently a non-starter (similarly, "she"). It's just jarring.

The excrescence known as "he/she" or "he or she" --- we shall not speak of it.

One has been known to try using "one", but it sounds extremely formal, and is not appropriate many times.

As for the various made up genderless singular pronouns.... just stop it. Stop trying to make crap like "zhe" happen. It's not going to happen. It doesn't even sound English, which is part of the problem. (I can see "e", "em", "eir" eventually working its way into the language, but only after it goes through the they/them/their phase).

We already have a solution, and if you listen to how people actually speak you will realize the solution is the singular "they".

For those who complain that "they" is plural by its very nature, and it's not logical to use it in the singular sense... I could point you to other languages with similar things, but I don't have to do that.

We've already had a pronoun that used to be exclusively plural, and now covers the singular case as well:

you

The singular form of "you" was "thou". Yes, in "Modern English" (i.e., post-Great Vowel Shift). Over time, "thou" got shoved out of the language, and we're left with only one 2nd person (standard) pronoun.

What do you mean use a "singular you"? Are you uneducated?! It's not even logical!

Yeah.

I recommend the prescriptivists to take the bug out their ass (okay, look, I know this goes back millennia....in the chapter on Augustus in Suetonius, it talks about his own prescriptivist/descriptivist tendencies -- odd amongst all the sexual rumor-mongering, Suetonius usually spends some paragraphs on each emperor's language use). I know the very nature of an irrelevant nitpicker is to see lice where none exist. Telling them to cut it out is pointless.

(See what I did there? =Snort=)

"They" as a singular pronoun is already widespread as a part of the spoken English language, and fixes the issue with regards to needing a genderless pronoun. It has been used as such for the entirety of the history of Modern English (to wit: Shakespeare used it -- huh, it goes back to Middle English, too).

So, it doesn't much matter if I support it or people get rapped on the knuckles for using it.

I just wonder if the same issue as crops up with "you" means that we'll be lamenting the lack of a distinctive plural third person pronoun in a hundred years to come.

"Th'all"?

Hmmm. Best get to work on that.

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[info]mercyorbemoaned

February 26 2012, 22:04:50 UTC 2 months ago

iawtp

[info]theojf

February 27 2012, 03:02:56 UTC 2 months ago

thou : you :: they : yey?

[info]meep

February 27 2012, 12:04:56 UTC 2 months ago

yay!

[info]sosiouxme

February 27 2012, 07:02:14 UTC 2 months ago Edited:  February 27 2012, 07:40:14 UTC

thanks, i had been meaning to look into what "thou" was all about someday.

i think you're right, the shift to singular "they" is already happening, much as it sometimes makes me cringe. i would probably be ok with writing "s/he" if there were an equivalent way to write his/her.

i wonder who will be the first major publisher to admit it? or, here's a thought... maybe it will be part of what finally drives the idea of a "major publisher" into the ground. maybe it will become a sort of net-wide division a la neal stephenson's "reamde" palette drift.

[info]meep

February 27 2012, 12:09:13 UTC 2 months ago

I'm going to say: publishers (major or otherwise) are going to be irrelevant on this.

As will newspapers.

Doesn't matter what they go for. The language will continue to change no matter what they do.

We no longer write "I am come" a la Austen, do we? That wasn't a decision by the "elites". The elite end tends to be conservative with regards to linguistic change. Almost all language change comes from the wider population -- after all, they outnumber the rule-setters by a considerable margin.

[info]sosiouxme

February 28 2012, 10:31:12 UTC 2 months ago

no, the "elites" or majors won't be able to stop change. i just wonder when they'll stop bucking it and who will be the first to cave.

[info]mercyorbemoaned

March 4 2012, 16:20:41 UTC 2 months ago

I think it's more complex than that. The elites aren't any more conservative than anybody else; they're just powerful and people imitate their speech to be more like them. But in the West we used to institutions that imposed a version of upper class speech, writing, and other habits, and this was done in order to erode regional distinctions and create national unity. In the Anglosphere this was more decentralized and bottom-up, in the Latin and German countries it was more centralized and top-down, but a levelling-up of language and habits happened in the West and in the parts of the world that imitated us. We have a strong cultural memory of this as being something imposed by the elites on the masses but in fact it was something different; it was bureaucrats grabbing power via the masses from the old order. What is happening now isn't democratization or elimination of elite power; it's a return to older ways of doing things where nobody gives a shit about uplifting the masses.

[info]meep

March 4 2012, 17:02:23 UTC 2 months ago

By "elite", I mean the "linguistic elite" - as in, those who denote themselves as arbiters of language. I don't mean rich people, per se (I'm pretty rich, after all, relatively). I'm talking about people like publishers and editors.

They are more apt to see vulgarisms and solecisms everywhere - "Not our sort, dear".

The linguistic elites get to pick spelling, sometimes. But even there, that can change.

Majority rules.
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